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Old 15th September 2010, 07:59   #11
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No, coaches were owned by CIWL (Compagnie Internationale des Wagons Lits) founded by the belgian George Nagelmackers who was inspired by Pullman's coaches during his trip trough USA.
The 1909 composition was: baggage van, dining car, three sleeping cars, baggage van.
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Old 15th September 2010, 15:28   #12
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...The 1909 composition was: baggage van, dining car, three sleeping cars, baggage van.
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6 cars? That's interesting. So everyone just sat in the dining car when they weren't sleeping? Or were the sleeping cars the ones with beds that made into seats? (Not sure what the official name is)
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European sleepings are divided in compartments (single or double) fitted with seats that, at night time, are converted to beds, every compartment is then fitted with a small closet equipped with mirror and wash-basin, a small cupboard (black tie was requested at dinner) while toilets were at the end of coaches.
So during day hours you could either travel in the dining car (so to have "social life") or stay in your compartment.
To complete my previous message, Mr. Nagelmackers was inspired by Pullman's coaches, but thought that the american system of berths alongside coach walls, closed simply by a curtain, wouldn't have been accepted by european travellers for decency reasons.
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Old 15th September 2010, 20:54   #14
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You might want to take a look at the link below, which although for the modern Venice Simplon Orient Express, does have an animated sequence of how the compartments are converted into sleepers and back into day rooms. All of that sort of thing was typically handled by the porters on the trains, as the kind of people who traveled on the Orient Express in its heyday would most likely be used to having servants do most of the work for them, i.e. the kind of people who don't even put their own toothpaste on their toothbrush, but have a servant do it for them (that's not a joke by the way, there really are people like that, even today).

http://www.orient-express.com/web/vsoe/double_cabin.jsp

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Old 7th October 2010, 07:53   #15
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US$9,470 for five nights hmm not bad just takes a couple of years of bottle collecting and no burgers for a while to pay off . A trip of a life time thats for sure except if i win the lottery thenits chump change
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Old 7th October 2010, 08:03   #16
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earlier cars mentioned are too american not that a european town's police couldnt have had them as there was american brands in europe in the 30's but thease are more likely the types of cars that could be found .
poirot's car at the station after catching the culprit
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/30_bmw328.htm
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/30_delage.htm

police cars
the inspectors car
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/30_mercedes.htm
the ordinary police stiffs car
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/30_wolseleypolicecar.htm or silmiar style european car
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Some nice looking cars Danagill - thanks. And welcome to AMR.
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